Pronunciation of Rachel … – Language laboratory: English ⇔ German forum
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How is “Rachel” pronounced in German these days? So how does the word “revenge” end with “l”? Or something like in English – “deer tchel”?
And is “Megan” a very unusual name? (I suppose it’s rarely used …)
And, lately, I know that “Julia” comes up a lot but how is “Julie” usually pronounced? Like the month of “July” or is the “e” also pronounced, “Ju li eh”?
My husband and I try to get in the mood for a name, but we want to have one that is not too “American” but that also fits in Germany. Thanks for any help!
author Karin 23 Jan 05, 16:52 comment Rachel is still spoken in German with Rache + l. In my opinion, the name doesn’t sound so nice in German, precisely because the word revenge always resonates.
In the case of Julie, the -e would also be included in German. And Megan is totally out of use. I’m even afraid that many people immediately think of the Renault Megane, a car.
Maybe you try the other way and look at a list of German names and think about whether it sounds good to American ears. Try www.behindthename.com
#1 author Selima 23 Jan 05, 16:57 comment
no, Rachel is pronounced like in English. The name is not that unknown here, it appears, for example, in “friends”! 🙂
I only know Megan from the USA, I’ve never heard her name in Germany. Julie is also pronounced in English, precisely because it usually sounds like the month. Names pronounced in English are becoming more and more popular here … most of the American names are known here from movies, TV series and such!
Good luck with finding a name!
# 2 author Ina 23 Jan 05, 17:02 comment @Ina: but you are speaking for some of the Germans, especially the younger Germans.
In the other thread Karin said that she also has relatives in Germany who don’t speak English. They would speak to Rachel like Vengeance + 1 and Julie like Juli-eh. If I met an American woman with the first name Rachel, I would of course pronounce it in English. If it was a German, I would pronounce it in German, so Vengeance + l.
If my name was Anne or Marion, I would also insist that the name be pronounced in German, at least I would ask Germans to do so.
# 4 author Selima 23 Jan 05, 17:37 comment
Oops sorry, misread it – Megan was the most popular girl’s name in Wales, and sixth overall in England and Wales counted together.
# 6 author Debs 23 Jan 05, 17:49 comment
I have a lot to do with young children and they have names from all over the world these days. And even grandmas and grandpas have no problem with pronunciation. Names change, think about what names were popular in the past. And today the kids are Justin, Kevin, Jacqueline or Zoé and that is quite normal. You can’t be so old-fashioned! Names that exist in both languages, such as Sarah, Anna, Julia or something like that, can be pronounced in German or English. but Rachel, for example, doesn’t exist in German at all (only Rahel), that’s why nobody would say revenge-1, or just as long as they don’t know better. And I don’t think it’s too much to ask that German relatives and acquaintances learn the pronunciation of a new name!
# 7 author Ina 23 Jan 05, 18:04 comment
But what if Karin now wants a name that is easy to pronounce in both German and English?
I would just like to point out that Rachel would often utter vengeance + 1 without appropriate instruction. Of course, older Germans can also learn to pronounce Rachel American. But I’m afraid that the result will be an unappealing variant that sounds like Rä-itschl.
#8th author Selima 23 Jan 05, 18:26 comment
There is the German name “Rachel”, which is also pronounced German. I even know someone who is called that and is pronounced “Vengeance-l”!
# 9 author Simon 23 Jan 05, 18:27 comment
Thank you, simon!
# 10 author Selima 23 Jan 05, 18:32 comment In the case of a German, I would pronounce Rachel Rache-l. I would pronounce Julie in French rather than English, Julia in German. Of course, I adjust to what the person himself wants. # 11 author sb (de) 23 Jan 05, 19:13 comment “Rachel” is (with the German pronunciation already mentioned) a maiden name that is particularly widespread among German Jews.
A famous bearer of the name “Rachel” in Germany was Rachel Varnhagen von Ense (d. 1833), who ran an important literary salon in Berlin.
Rachel Salamander publishes the magazine “Literarian Welt” and heads the literature shop in Munich.
Dr. Rachel Monika Herweg is the initiator of the “Bet Debora” (House of Debora) in Berlin.
Rachel Haferkamp runs a gallery in Cologne.
Rachel Weißenberger is an artist in Frankfurt / M.
… to name just a few examples.
# 12 author MiMo 23 Jan 05, 19:28 comment Germany 2004:
1 Hanna / Hannah
3 Lea / Leah
4 Sara / Sarah
9 Emily / Emilie
So Hannah, Emma, Emily are in both top tens.
We tried not to choose too weird names, as the kids are growing up bilingual and bicultural, and that makes them different enough already. Our are Elisabeth and Alexander.
I’ve given up trying to get people to say my name the English way (not Archfarchnad, but Anne!) As they just call me “N” then, as if we were in a James Bond film. Anne pronounced “AnnE” sounds much better than that.
# 13 author Archfarchnad -gb- 23 Jan 05, 19:31 comment Thanks for all of these answers. You are very helpful!
By the way, Rachel, Julie and Megan are not the * only * names on our list, just the names I don’t know in German. The others, for example Sophie, Erika, etc., work in German as well as in English.
# 14 author Karin 23 Jan 05, 10:40 pm comment
Thanks for being listed as an example. 🙂 My name is really pronounced in English (I lived in Scotland for a while), although some Germans also say Rache-l, which I don’t like. Sounds too much like revenge or revenge!
# 15 author Rachel Weissenberger 03 Mar 05, 14:14 comment
So my name is Julie and it is actually pronounced July-anyway but mostly abbreviated to July. The name is also available as a “German” name – my grandmother and a great-grandmother of mine (other family side) were already called that and they were definitely not pronounced Dschuli or Dschülí.
I also always thought that Rachel was Rahel in German (without the “c”).
Incidentally, I consider Erika to be a bit out of date in Germany and, as far as I know, not yet “in” again (in connection with Karl, Franz, Hannah and so on)
# 16 author Julie 03 Mar 05, 14:43 comment
Rachel Weissenberger: Good to know who is secretly reading everything here. 🙂
# 17 author Greenhorn 03 Mar 05, 14:51 comment
Oh, greenhorn, don’t you ever secretly google yourself? 🙂
# 18 author tigger 03 Mar 05, 14:56 comment
“I also always thought that Rachel was Rahel in German (without the” c “).”
– in principle you are right. “Rahel” is the version found in the Luther Bible and in the standard translation; “Rachel” was common in older German Bible translations. However, you have to realize that these are all just adaptations to the original Hebrew form and “h” and “ch” are two pharynx sounds that can only be rendered imperfectly in other languages.
# 19 author November 03 Mar 05, 14:58 comment Can I add a pronunciation question?
How do you pronounce the name Bryde? / braidi /?
# 20 author Nicole I. 03 Mar 05, 15:10 comment
I think it’s really poor to give your child a name from a TV series or some other mundane reason. I think you should think about it and choose a name that you associate with something deeper.
# 21 author joba 03 Mar 05, 15:33 comment
Megan is a Welsh girl name and is pronounced “Mäggänn” with an emphasis on the first syllable. Do not be misled by the Americans (“Miehgen”) or the French (“Renault”), the pronunciation I have given above is correct.
# 22 author hein “herb Cymru” mosquito 03 Mar 05, 15:38 comment
joba, Rachel is a biblical name that …
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